[OFBiz] Users - feedback on tutorials

[Si Chen]

Sinan Yatkin wrote:

>Hi si.
>
>Your OFBiz tutorials Page is really great. It makes me after 3 Months
>to understand the Structure.
>
>But i have some Questions. At the First Picture you have beanshell in
>the Business Logic but in your Pdf you have it in the Presentation
>Layer.  I would say it belongs to Model ?
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It can be used for business logic as part of the model, but most of the 
time, it's used in the presentation layer for data gathering.  So I 
tried to put into both places.

>One more Question on the Page 5 in your pdf you have all Applications.
>But i dont understand how are they classified. What is the different
>between Manufacturing and Accounting? I think some explanation about
>your pdf would be helpful.
>
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What do you mean by this?  Are you familiar with the general functions 
of applications in an ERP package, for example?  (I'm sorry, this seemed 
self-explanatory, so I'm trying to figure out what your question is.)

>As a newbie i think also Freemarker is easy. I think the business
>Logic needs some more explanations.
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Ok.  Good.  I'll try to get to it.

>So thanks again Si Chen. 
>
>Sinan
>
>On 6/13/05, Si Chen <schen at graciousstyle.com> wrote:
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>>Hi everyone.  Thanks for the help reading through this.
>>
>>I'll try to incorporate more graphics rather than text displays in the
>>future...
>>
>>All of the code you are seeing is in the <pre> blocks.  Not really
>>possible to highlight stuff in there, unfortunately.
>>
>>I'll put in a word about freemarker and eclipse in the tutorial.  Do you
>>think I'm exaggerating by saying that freemarker is "very easy, intuitive"?
>>
>>Ruth--do you know why it's scrolling so far to the right?  I'm not quite
>>sure but if you (or anyone) knows of a fix, please let me know.
>>
>>Si
>>
>>Ruth Hoffman wrote:
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>>>Daniel Kunkel wrote:
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>>>>Si
>>>>
>>>>Your tutorial is brilliant, and is a wonderful addition to help jump
>>>>start people with getting started with OFBiz. I think this will really
>>>>help out the project!
>>>>
>>>>Mostly I just look forward to seeing additional installments which I see
>>>>you've already started, but as you we're looking for feedback I did
>>>>notice one thing...
>>>>
>>>>Would it be very difficult to note (bold?) the changes made to the
>>>>hello1 controller file?
>>>>Thanks for doing this!!!  Hopefully David can get a link to this in the
>>>>OFBiz.org site soon.
>>>>
>>>>Daniel
>>>>
>>>>On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 16:55 -0700, Si Chen wrote:
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>>>>>I've made some ofbiz tutorials at
>>>>>http://www.opensourcestrategies.com/ofbiz/tutorials.php
>>>>>
>>>>>I'd like to get your feedback and suggestions on these.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>Si
>>>>>
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>>>Agreed. This is great. Thanks Si!
>>>
>>>A couple of things, which are not meant to detract from the usefulness
>>>of this...
>>>
>>>1) If I were looking at this without any knowledge of OFBiz
>>>development, I'd wonder why you are in the "Eclipse" root directory.
>>>So, maybe a quick word or two about Eclipse and how it fits in. Maybe
>>>all you need to say is something like this:
>>>
>>>Since OFBiz is relocatable and completely self-contained, it may run
>>>anywhere on your system. For example, for this tutorial we have chosen
>>>to deploy our OFBiz framework so that we may manage development using
>>>the Eclipse IDE. This is not necessary. In fact, you may have several
>>>versions of OFBiz resident on your computer at anytime, some installed
>>>within the Eclipse directory tree, and others not. Of course, you may
>>>only "run" a single version of OFBiz at any time.
>>>
>>>2) The part about Freemaker would also be confusing to me. Maybe a
>>>word about why freemarker and not plain old .html files. I'm not sure
>>>what would work here...but for a newbie, I think Freemarker is a real
>>>red-herring that needs to be addressed right up front.
>>>
>>>3) OK, this is petty, but I'm just going to mention it anyhow - the
>>>style sheet needs some work - on both Safari and Firefox, text scrolls
>>>way to far to the right and I can't read the content without
>>>scrolling. That makes following the tutorial flow  difficult.
>>>
>>>But, again, great job!
>>>
>>>Ruth
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