[OFBiz] Users - Spring versus Ofbiz?

[Adrian Crum]

David,

I apologize if I offended you. I wasn't speaking to you personally, I 
was making the point (or trying to - lol) that each project has its purpose.

OFBiz is a combination framework and a set of functional applications. 
So, the point I was trying to make is...  if I want to write a "Hello 
World" application, I would use something like Spring (or just plain old 
Java for that matter). If I need an application that I can modify, then 
I would use OFBiz.

Sorry for the confusion.


David wrote:

> Adrian,
>  
> */Adrian Crum <adrianc at hlmksw.com>/* wrote:
> 
>      >And the contestants will do this in their copius free time, correct?
> 
>      >I don't see the benefit of all of this discussion.
> 
>     For me it is usefull I have learned about both framworks, know I
>     have a better idea about both. Other people who know ofbiz could
>     think about how to improve Ofbiz, etc...
> 
>      >If someone prefers  Spring, then they should use it. Let each open
>     source project stand or fall on its own benefits.
> 
>     I am starting whith the problem of using a framework on my team.
>     That is why I am looking form more than one options.
>      
>     I would like to know both framework, because problably ofbiz could
>     be better for some application and Spring for another.
>      
>     I whould like to use ofbiz at least for comparing how dificult/easy
>     is to develope a simple aplication. I am just suprise that an open
>     source project since 2001 doesn't have a simple "Hello World"
>     example documented. Just that.
>      
>      >Speaking from the perspective of someone who needs to deploy an
>     enterprise application - I like the idea of starting with a basic
>     accounting framework. I'm not interested in writing a "Hello World"
>     example. I need an existing "Hello World" application that I can modify
>     to say "G'day World" - THAT'S what OFBiz provides.
>      
>     At this point I am agry with you, but there is no such example at
>     list for free.
>      
>     Regards,
>      
>     David Leal
> 
> 
>     Si Chen wrote:
>      > Hey there--
>      >
>      > This is a pretty interesting thread. I've been trying to follow
>     it on
>      > and off.
>      >
>      > How about this? If you are talking about a "hello world" example,
>     write
>      > it in the Spring Framework. As long as it is a bona fide "hello
>     world"
>      > example and not a big real life application, I'll try to pitch in
>     and
>      > write a comparable version in OFBiz. Then maybe somebody else can
>     do it
>      > in their favorite J2EE or JBoss/Struts/Hibernate framework. We
>     can post
>      > it on all a web page somewhere as a "code shootout"?
>      >
>      > Si
>      >
>      > A. Zeneski wrote:
>      >
>      >> David,
>      >>
>      >> I agree with you. Now that the framework has been separated from
>     the
>      >> application components, we intend to push the OFBiz Framework to
>     more
>      >> users. This would include users like yourself who plan to use a
>      >> c! ompletely different datamodel.
>      >>
>      >> I will begin work on a "Getting started developing applications
>     using
>      >> the OFBiz Framework guide". This will run down the basics of
>     creating
>      >> components, defining entities, services. Implementing some basic
>      >> services; adding a web UI and talking with the services.
>      >>
>      >> This will take a little time to write, so I doubt it will be
>     ready in
>      >> time for you to get your proof of concept finished, however I agree
>      >> that it is something we will need in order to bring a larger
>     user base
>      >> to the framework.
>      >>
>      >> -Andy
>      >>
>      >> On Mar 2, 2005, at 9:32 AM, David wrote:
>      >>
>      >>> >What do you want to do with it? What kind of docs are you looking
>      >>> for..
>      >>>
>      >>> I asked for a typical Hello World example in order to see at least
>      >>> how to configurate a! nd work with the Entity Engine and Service
>      >>> Engine. I asked to the mailing list for that, and people
>     recomend to
>      >>> me some seminar, where such stuff is explained. So in order to see
>      >>> the most simplest example I have to page an expensive seminar,
>     there
>      >>> is no book, no tutorial, nothing, for something theoretically
>     simple.
>      >>> On any new tecnology there is a such simple example.
>      >>>
>      >>> I wanted to show to my boss the benefit of using ofbiz, but
>     with the
>      >>> information on the web, for me it is impossible to make a simple
>      >>> particular demostrative example, let say, reading some information
>      >>> from database and showing it on the web browser.
>      >>>
>      >>
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