[OFBiz] Users - manufacture experiences
Hans Bakker
h.bakker at antwebsystems.com
Mon Mar 14 20:00:56 EST 2005
David already put it into SVN (thanks David) and i could try the new
feature within minutes. Yes, this looks good! Now there is an instant
view of the BOM and routing with the possibility to jump into the
lowerlevel BOM's and back again.
Thanks!
Regards,
Hans
On Mon, 2005-03-14 at 18:11 +0100, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
> Hans,
>
> in Jira (OFBIZ-171) you'll find a patch that will add a new tab to the
> product's pages with manufacturing related information (routings, boms,
> llc).
>
> Jacopo
>
> Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
> > Hi Hans,
> >
> > and thanks for your interesting comments and remarks.
> > See my comments below:
> >
> > Hans Bakker wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Jacopo,
> >>
> >> let me first say that i am very impressed with this component. I did not
> >> yet look internally, only as a user but it seems that most of the
> >> production functions are present. A great job! I will do a presentation
> >> to the potentional customer this week (wendesday) and i am confident
> >> that i will make a good impression.
> >>
> >> I tried what you have listed below and it is working fine, however a few
> >> remarks:
> >> 1. when the production runs are generated and the system is missing a
> >> routing for a product, no message is given back to the user and no run
> >> is generated, only a tiny message appears in the log.
> >
> >
> > Yeah! Error management in the manufacturing component is far from
> > optimal. I'll need to study more about it to make it more user friendly.
> >
> >> 2. As you mention all runs inclusive lower level runs are generated that
> >> is very good and the date/times within a run for every step are
> >> calculated, however using the submission date as the start for all runs
> >> (and not using the estimated end date of the order) although the
> >> dependent productionruns should be done first.
> >> Am i right if i say that the timeplanning for runs using certain fixed
> >> assets and dependent runs are not implemented yet?
> >
> >
> > About dates and timeplanning: you are right, some work still needs to be
> > done in this area, mainly:
> > - entering times in milliseconds is ugly, the ui will change to be more
> > user friendly
> > - (as you have noticed) the highest estimated end date of the mandatory
> > production runs should be used as the estimated start date of the
> > production run
> > - at least a report showing the production runs assigned to a given
> > fixed asset
> > - moving the calendar stuff to the work effort's calendar
> >
> > At now dependent fixed assets are implemented in this way: you can start
> > a production run only after that all the preceding production runs have
> > been completed.
> >
> >> 3. An integation with the catalog component would be nice for the BOM's
> >> i.e. list a bom from the product list.
> >> 4. To be sure all routings and BOM's are there an manufacturing overview
> >> page for a product with routings and BOM's of dependant products would
> >> be nice..
> >>
> >
> > I agree. I'm going to develop a new 'manufacturing' tab for the
> > product's pages later this week. I'll try to send it to David (and you)
> > before wednesday.
> >
> >> In the MRP option i asked to have events listed from a certain date but
> >> it looked like it was listed all items from the start.
> >>
> >
> > Hmmm... this seems a bug... I'll have a look at it and I'll let you know.
> >
> >> I will do some more tests today and tomorrow....
> >>
> >> thank you very much for your work, hopefully i can contribute in the
> >> future...
> >>
> >
> > You're welcome.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Jacopo
> >
> >
> >> Regards,
> >> Hans
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, 2005-03-11 at 11:44 +0100, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Hans,
> >>>
> >>> this is correct; when you manually create a production run, only the
> >>> first level in BOM is considered.
> >>> Then, if you run MRP, the requirements for production runs (for the
> >>> subcomponents etc) will be generated. Please note that the MRP will
> >>> create requirements only if a ProductFacility record is present for a
> >>> given product (you can edit it in the "facility" tab of the
> >>> catalog->product's pages). If you accept the requirements, the
> >>> production runs will be created.
> >>>
> >>> To make the system work as you want (i.e. create all the production
> >>> runs needed to create a finished product in one step) you have to:
> >>>
> >>> 1) create a sales order for the finished product
> >>> 2) create a sales shipment and add the order item to it as a shipment
> >>> plan item
> >>> 3) once the shipment plan status is put to "scheduled" the shipment
> >>> plan will be available under the "shipment plan" menu in the
> >>> manufacturing component
> >>> 4) from there you can print a report to analyze the stock levels of
> >>> the raw materials needed to manufacture the product and then you can
> >>> create all the production run in one step.
> >>> 5) if you go to the order view page you'll see that a production run
> >>> is linked to the order item related to the finished product you need
> >>> to manufacture
> >>> 6) in the top of the production run pages you'll see that the
> >>> production run is linked to other production runs (the '*' symbol
> >>> means that the production run needs to be completed before the actual
> >>> production run).
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Jacopo
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hans Bakker wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Jacopo,
> >>>>
> >>>> I am trying to use the manufactoring component to be able to show the
> >>>> system to the potentional customer. This customer produces
> >>>> autopartassemblies using stamps and welding- and other machines. These
> >>>> autopartassemblies are manufactured from raw material on rolls and from
> >>>> purchased parts (nuts is an example)
> >>>>
> >>>> Presently the planning of the production process is done on
> >>>> spreadsheets
> >>>> and they are looking to have a system which will help them doing:
> >>>> 1. The order: Receive the order with the required productnumber,
> >>>> quantity
> >>>> and required deliverydate which should enter the accepted
> >>>> order into
> >>>> the
> >>>> production planning.
> >>>> 2. The production planning: which machines should do what and in
> >>>> which
> >>>> order and
> >>>> at what date should the production process start to achieve
> >>>> the
> >>>> shippingdate.
> >>>> Of course taking into account that machines can be busy for
> >>>> other
> >>>> orders and
> >>>> that products have subparts which need to be manufactured
> >>>> first.
> >>>> 3. Material resource planning (MRP): which parts and raw material
> >>>> should go to
> >>>> which machine or warehouse or should be ordered and which
> >>>> parts
> >>>> should be
> >>>> shipped to the customer.
> >>>>
> >>>> attached my bill of materials of the product 0163 i want to
> >>>> manufacture.
> >>>> It is an assembly part consisting out of :
> >>>> 1. 0703S which consist out of a part 0703 which need to stamped
> >>>> first (1
> >>>> stamp machine) from raw matarial (RW-0703). Then a purchased nut (1920)
> >>>> will be welded onto it.
> >>>> 2. 0659 which will be stamped using 4 stampmachines.
> >>>>
> >>>> I also created a routing for every product.
> >>>>
> >>>> I now started a production run but see that only the first level of the
> >>>> BOM is executed not taking into account that 0703S and 0659 need to be
> >>>> manufactured first or be in stock.
> >>>>
> >>>> am i missing here something? I am just thinking, perhaps i need to
> >>>> setup
> >>>> inventory?
> >>>>
> >>>> I have send you my current ofbiz data base ('data' directory) in a
> >>>> separate mail (can sent to others too on request, zipped size is about
> >>>> 3Mb)
> >>>>
> >>>> regards,
> >>>> Hans
> >>>>
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